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    egg and chicken

    mohammed radwan
    mohammed radwan
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    مراسل المنصورة


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    مُساهمة من طرف mohammed radwan 2007-11-01, 1:58 pm

    بسم الله
    Looking at the chemical composition of stars that host planets, astronomers have found that while dwarf stars often show iron enrichment on their surface, giant stars do not
    they think that the planetary debris falling onto the outer layer of the star produces a detectable effect in a dwarf star, but this pollution is diluted by the giant star and mixed into its interior
    planets are preferentially found around stars that are enriched in iron
    Planet-hosting stars are on average almost twice as rich in metals than their counterparts with no planetary system
    chicken and egg paradox
    whether
    this richness in metals enhances planet formation
    or
    it is caused by the presence of planets
    من خلق اولا ؟ : الدجاجه ام البيضه
    البيضه اصلها دجاجه ، والدجاجه اصلها بيضه
    Question Question
    سبحان الله
    in first case
    the stars would be metal-rich down to their centre.
    second case
    debris from the planetary system would have polluted the star and only the external layers would be affected by this pollution
    by observing stars and take spectra
    astronomers indeed only see the outer layers and can't make sure the whole star has the same composition
    When planetary debris fall onto a star, the material will stay in the outer parts, polluting it and leaving traces in the spectra taken
    A team of astronomers has decided to takc this question by looking at a different kind of stars
    Looking at the distribution of metals in fourteen planet-hosting giants, the astronomers found that their distribution was rather different from normal planet-hosting stars
    red gaints
    have exhausted the hydrogen in their core
    and so they have puffed up, becoming much larger and cooler
    the sun will do this after several billion years
    Looking at the various options, the astronomers conclude that the most likely explanation lies in the difference in the structure between red giants
    and solar-like stars
    convective zone is only 2% of star mass like sun
    the region where all the gas is completely mixed
    but for red gaints is huge
    encompassing 35 times more mass than the star
    The polluting material would thus be 35 times more diluted in a red giant than in a solar-like star
    solar-like stars appear metal-rich because of the pollution of their atmospheres
    egg and chicken Phot-29-07-preview
    When the star was still surrounded by a proto-planetary disc, material enriched in more heavy elements would fall onto the star, thereby polluting its surface. The metal excess produced by this pollution, while visible in the thin atmospheres of solar-like stars, is completely diluted in the extended, massive atmospheres of the giants
    source
    european south telescope
    eso
    مع تحياتي
    abdovolcano
    abdovolcano
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    جيو محترف


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    مُساهمة من طرف abdovolcano 2007-11-04, 2:51 pm

    موضوع رائع وفيه تفكير thanks
    the knight mohsen
    the knight mohsen
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    مُساهمة من طرف the knight mohsen 2007-11-23, 11:39 pm

    good topic
    the knight mohsen
    the knight mohsen
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    مُساهمة من طرف the knight mohsen 2007-11-23, 11:41 pm

    good topic
    novaaaa
    novaaaa
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    مُساهمة من طرف novaaaa 2007-11-24, 6:57 pm

    معلومات قيمه جزاك الله خيرا
    moony
    moony
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    مُساهمة من طرف moony 2007-11-24, 9:37 pm

    excellent topic thanks

      الوقت/التاريخ الآن هو 2024-05-19, 5:02 pm