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    مُساهمة من طرف mohammed radwan 2007-10-15, 7:29 pm

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
    الفكره دي منقوله من اخوناtarek yehia
    انا بس حبيت انقلها عندنا في منتدي الجيوفيزياء
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    عايزين بس ننشط معلوماتنا في الجيوفيزياء
    انا عارف ان الحكايه ممكن تكون صعبه شويه هنا لان عددنا قليل في المنتدي .....لكن ممكن نعمل شغل جامد
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    مُساهمة من طرف salheen 2007-10-15, 8:39 pm

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    مع وضع القانون وخلافه
    reflection coefficient
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    مُساهمة من طرف moony 2007-10-15, 11:50 pm

    reflection coeffecient :it is the ratio between the amlitude of reflected wave to that of incident wave[/size]

    [color=darkorchid]for two media sepatated by interface in which the densities are[color=#6600cc]2ρ,1ρ and velocitiesV1and V2 the reflection coeffecient is
    [R = (ρ2 V2 - ρ1 V1) / (ρ2 V2 + ρ1 V1


    and the question is
    what r the types of resolution and how the r improved during processing?
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    مُساهمة من طرف mohammed radwan 2007-10-16, 4:24 am

    resolution


    depth
    ivcrease depth
    decrease frequency
    decrease resolution
    increase velocity
    increase wavelength


    vertical resolution
    governed by wavelength
    wavelength=velocity/frequency
    so deal with vertical bed thickness


    horizontal resolution
    three dimension of wave spreading...........etc
    measured in terms of fresnel zone
    make this for fresnel zone bofore and after migration and know the difference
    shoud have frequency less than nyquest


    to improve

    gathering refracted wave arrivals into common midpoint trace gathers

    dsplay data as velocity stacks

    put geophones in offset with sources to have the refraction of the structure


    there is more tha this but me forget


    the question now

    what about weathering corrections? how done
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    مُساهمة من طرف moony 2007-10-16, 2:13 pm

    thanks for answer but i want to add something about resolution improvement
    vertical resolution is improved by deconvelution , while horizontal resolution is improved by migration
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    مُساهمة من طرف uno 2007-10-25, 10:14 pm

    Differential weathering is the difference in travel time at opposite ends of split-dip spread for a reflection from a horizon bed.
    It is a type of static correction and is induced by low velocity layer such as the weathered layer near the earth's surface.
    My question is
    what is the difference between convolution and deconvolution?
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    مُساهمة من طرف moony 2007-10-27, 8:50 pm

    convolution: _kon, v_ loo’ sh_n_ Change in waveshape as

    a result of passing through a linear filter.



    deconvolution: _de kon vo¯’ lu¯ sh_n_ 1. A process designed

    to restore a waveshape to the form it had before it

    underwent a linear filtering action _convolution_;

    inverse filtering. The objective of deconvolution is to

    nullify objectionable effects of an earlier filter action

    and thus improve the recognizability and resolution of

    reflected events

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    مُساهمة من طرف uno 2007-10-30, 5:13 am

    thanx ya moony 4 ur clear answer
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    u forgat ask us the Question
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    مُساهمة من طرف takey 2007-11-06, 12:21 am

    ok , I will ask, I know that moony will not remonstrate Very Happy
    what is the ambiguity??

    ana shyef en el maodo3 zareef ya reet nekamlo..... Very Happy
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    ana mesh fahem elmawdoooo3 mashy ezzay
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    مُساهمة من طرف CHEETOS 2007-11-06, 11:05 am

    what is the meaning of gis&diffrintial gps
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    مُساهمة من طرف mohammed radwan 2007-11-06, 8:17 pm

    بص يا عم شيتوس
    الموضوع فكرته
    ان فيه سؤال لما تجاوبه صح لك حق انك تسال سؤال
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    takey question
    ambiguity
    that thing that cannot be described directly
    say this anomaly may be....or it may be.... not have the adaquate answer
    non uniqness
    can solve proplem by velocity boreholes to study subsurface velocities
    also using measurments from several offsets to study velocities chang with depth
    this proplems can be solved to acceptable level sometimes
    tell me takey alot about meaning of ambiuity in u work
    cheetos question
    dgps
    correction done on data of gps error due to time &increase quality
    using some process techniques
    or by put reciever on basr station and comparing between locations , the difference is due to he rcording of second the rove reciever
    for this comapision need somr info about quality GIS records
    data collected using GPS for GIS

    this is due to my readings , i donot have yet gis



    my question
    there is four methods of resistivity survey design of electrodes
    schlumberger
    wenner
    dipole dipole
    pole dipole
    tell about
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    مُساهمة من طرف moony 2007-11-13, 8:03 pm

    Electrode Arrays



    • An electrode array consists of two electrodes at which DC current flows into and out of the ground plus two electrodes between which the potential difference at the surface is measured .




    • The apparent resistivity measured by different arrays is not the same, because the geometric factor K is different.





    A. Wenner: Alternating +ve and –ve near-surface regions cancel, and main response is from depth, which is fairly uniform laterally. Good for determining depth variations in 1-D Earth.

    B. Schlumberger: Equivalent vertical resolution to Wenner (distance between contours), but deep response is concave upwards. More sensitive to lateral variation in Earth.

    C.Dipole-Dipole: Poor vertical resolution as contours spaced widely. Lobes from each dipole penetrate deeply indicating good sensitivity to lateral variation at depth


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    what is multiprobe tester (MDT) and its uses?
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    مُساهمة من طرف takey 2007-11-15, 12:58 am

    MDT "Modular Formation Dynamics Tester", the MDT tool offers multiple sampling during a single wireline run and rapid pressure measurement using a new generation
    quartz gauge that stabilized quickly to accurately measure the formation
    pressure.

    Improved electrohydraulic control more easily minimizes the drawdown pressure drop,
    enhancing delicate sampling operations. A variable drawdown volume improves
    permeability measurement, especially in tight formations.


    The MDT system comprises a number of modules such as Electrical module, hydraulic
    power module, single-probe module, Sample chamber module, multisample module, pumpout
    module, flow control module, multiprobe module and Dual-packer module.


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    What is the Zero and minimum phase ?
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    مُساهمة من طرف mohammed radwan 2007-11-21, 8:28 pm

    very diffucult question takey
    any one know should tell
    i think takey will answer it finally
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    مُساهمة من طرف moony 2007-11-21, 11:24 pm

    both are wave phases results from the energy souce zero phase wavelet is symmetric on the origin and it is produced from vibrosis
    minimum phase is a wave with zero amplitude at the origin it is produced from other sources of energy
    for processing all waves must be in minimum phase
    The minimum phase wavelet has a short time duration and a concentration of energy at the start of the wavelet. It is zero before time zero (causal). An ideal seismic source would be a spike (maximum amplitude at every frequency), but the best practical one would be minimum phase. It is quite common to convert a given wavelet source wavelet into it's minimum phase equivalent since several processing stages (e.g. predictive deconvolution) work best by assuming that the input data is minimum phase. The maximum phase wavelet is the time reverse of the minimum phase and at every point the phase is greater for the maximum than the minimum. All other causal wavelets are strictly speaking mixed-phase and will be of longer time duration. The convolution of two minimum phase wavelets is minimum phase. The zero-phase wavelet is of shorter duration than the minimum phase equivalent. The wavelet is symmetrical with a maximum at time zero (non-causal). The fact that energy arrives before time zero is not physically realisable but the wavelet is useful for increased resolving power and ease of picking reflection events (peak or trough). The convolution of a zero-phase and minimum phase wavelet is mixed phase (because the phase spectrum of the original minimum phase wavelet is not the unique minimum phase spectrum for the new modified wavelet) and should be avoided

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    and now the question is what are the types of core analysis?
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    مُساهمة من طرف takey 2007-11-22, 10:20 am

    Excellent answer moony

    lol!
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    مُساهمة من طرف takey 2007-11-22, 11:11 am

    The Major Types of Core Analysis

    • Plug (Conventional) Analysis

      • Consolidated Formations
      • UnconsolidatedFormations

    • Full-Diameter Analysis

      • Routine Analysis
      • Pressure Core Analysis
      • Sponge Core Analysis

    • Sidewall Core Analysis

    1. Plug (Conventional) Analysis

    a. Consolidated Formations


    This technique is normally
    restricted to homogeneous formations that can be characterized with plug-size
    samples. Typical plug size is 1 inch (2.5 m) in diameter, and 1 inch (2.5 cm)
    long.

    b. Unconsolidated Formations

    Unconsolidated
    sand recovered within a rubber sleeve core barrel, a plastic inner barrel
    liner, or a fiberglass barrel is often stabilized by freezing prior to
    sampling. Frozen interstitial water present at the grain contacts immobilizes
    the rock particles. Plugs are drilled using liquid nitrogen as the bit
    lubricant.

    2. Full Diameter Analysis
    a. Routine Analysis

    Full
    diameter analysis was introduced to allow testing of rocks with complex
    lithology, such as heterogeneous carbonates and fissured, vugular formations
    unsuitable for plug analysis.

    b. Pressure Core Analysis

    The analysis of full diameter
    pressure cores follows, in a modified form, the procedures normally employed in
    more routine analysis. Full diameter samples are cut in the form of a right
    cylinder and then placed in specialized, airtight containers where they thaw,
    so that fluids expulsed from the core can be collected and measured.

    c. Sponge Core Analysis

    Full diameter analysis of
    samples recovered within the sponge barrel proceeds along the usual lines once
    the core has been removed from the barrel. The sponge itself is cut from the
    core barrel and the fluids it contains are extracted using a vacuum retort
    technique. Both oil and water volumes within the sponge are measured.

    3. Sidewall Core Analysis


    Sidewall samples are used extensively
    in softer sand areas. (Note, however, that a sidewall-drilled plug from a new
    sidewall coring device can be used for harder formations and can be analyzed in
    the same manner as a standard plug-sized core.) Percussion sidewalls are often
    smaller and demand additional attention.



    Now Easy Question



    What is the Ground roll??
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    مُساهمة من طرف hosny hassan 2007-11-27, 9:27 pm

    ØSurface waves (often called ground roll) are usually present on reflection records
    ØFor the most part, these are Rayleigh waves with velocities ranging from 100 to 1000 m/s or so.
    ØGround roll frequencies usually are lower than those of reflection and refractions, often with the energy concentrated below 15 Hz.
    ØGround roll alignments are straight, just as refractions are, but represent lower velocities.
    ØGround roll energy generally is high enough even in the reflection band to override all but the strongest reflections.
    ØOccasionally where ground roll is exceptionally strong, in line offsets are used so that desired reflections can be recorded before the surface waves reach the spread.
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    i hope this answer will be sufficient
    my next question
    what is Dip moveout processing?
    thank u takey about this answer
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    مُساهمة من طرف takey 2007-12-02, 1:00 am




    A
    traveltime curve resulting from a dipping reflector has two velocity
    components. The first component is the normal moveout component, which is a
    factor of the geometry of the seismic array and the increasing distance from
    the zero offset location to the far receivers. The second component is caused
    by the presence of structural dip.



    This
    second component is reflected in the asymmetry of the travel paths on either
    side of the zero offset location. Travel paths on the updip side have shorter
    raypaths and, therefore, faster traveltimes than those on the downdip side.
    This phenomenon is most apparent with shot gather data, but it also occurs on a
    smaller scale with CMP gather data.



    The first velocity component is taken into account by
    applying a normal move-out (NMO) correction. The second is handled by
    applying a dip moveout (DMO) correction.






    While NMO corrects for the time
    delay on an offset trace by moving the amplitudes to earlier times on the trace,
    DMO moves the data up-dip to the correct position where a zero-offset trace
    would record a dipping reflector (Figure 1). Migration then moves the energy to
    the correct horizontal and vertical subsurface location.


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    Fig. 1. Data movement during NMO, DMO, and
    migration (after Sheriff, 1991).
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    Figure 2 and Figure 3 are
    an example of data in a highly faulted area. In this case, DMO improves the
    data quality. In Figure 2 , the arrows point to a reflector that appears to be
    fairly continuous. But in Figure 3 , we can see that the reflector is faulted
    and that DMO has improved the overall fault definition in this area



    Finally, we can say that the DMO “Dip MoveOut”
    is A geophysical process which corrects for differences in arrival times at
    different geophone offset positions caused by the dip of a reflector.





    Now what do u know about (OBC) ocean-bottom cable?

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    مُساهمة من طرف hosny hassan 2007-12-02, 5:52 am

    weeeeeeeehaa very nice takey
    thank u very much
    really really really thanks
    the answer of your question is ready
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    مُساهمة من طرف hosny hassan 2007-12-02, 6:45 am

    Ocean Bottom Seismograph (OBS)
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    In the 1990s, the introduction of Ocean Bottom Cable (OBC), where the seismic cables are laid down on the sea bottom
    A particular kind of OBC includes two seismic sensors, one hydrophone and one multicomponent receiver. The hydrophone provides pressure measurements while the multicomponent receiver, which consists of three geophones oriented in directions perpendicular to each other, measures the components of the elastic wavefield.
    ØThis particular seismic acquisition method, known as Ocean Bottom Seismograph (OBS), yields satisfactory data quality for S-wave energy in a marine environment.
    ØMulticomponent seismic surveys record both P-waves and shear, or S-waves; this is achieved by recording all components of the returning wavefield.
    ØEach sensor within a multicomponent recording cable comprises three orthogonally oriented geophones for land acquisition, plus a hydrophone for marine acquisition (hence four-component or 4C).
    ØP-waves are detected primarily by the Z-component geophone and the hydrophone, while S-waves are detected primarily by the X- and Y-component geophones.
    ØThe 3C data can then be used to “create” the shear wave mode, called a C-wave, by converting the S-wave signal using a P-to-S mode conversion algorithm technique
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    4-C sensor
    ØBecause of the nature of the OBS data acquisition, combining the vertical component (Z-component) of the vector wavefield and the pressure component (hydrophone), a process known as PZ summation, produces PZ seismic sections, which are ideally free of water-bottom multiples
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    ØThe PS sections of the OBS seismic dataset have proved to be useful in several areas, as for example, the identification of gas seepages, P-wave reflections are disturbed by the presence of gas in the subsurface, however, S-waves help to clarify the subsurface image since they are not affected by the presence of gas.

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    i hope this will help you
    i find it great to answer many questions to get more information
    this is really good partition in the forum
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    مُساهمة من طرف hosny hassan 2007-12-02, 6:55 am

    now my question is
    what is the concept of seismic stratigraphy and its applications in determining the real lithology ?
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